tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1197938424258426711.post1014987622591569612..comments2012-07-28T16:26:36.979-07:00Comments on Ellipsis ...: dara Birnbaum @ South London galleryDot23http://www.blogger.com/profile/14215966624411039208noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1197938424258426711.post-61220470790129345672012-02-15T12:25:14.752-08:002012-02-15T12:25:14.752-08:00Fair enough, but I kind of rile at the assumtion t...Fair enough, but I kind of rile at the assumtion that there is something about being working class that makes it harder to spot inequality. I worked 12 hours a day in factory and cleaning work and I still had time to question things. Other women in these occupation also questioned things, even if they might not have time to go out and do soemthing about it. Further when I finally did get into university I found that many of the women who studied gender studies had more of a theoretical interest in the subject than an actual understanding. I think in the end it comes down to interest and personal insight a whole lot more than where you work.Martine Votvikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940701234392212048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1197938424258426711.post-60491117750093054932012-02-15T12:18:30.245-08:002012-02-15T12:18:30.245-08:00Ah really I wasn't sure why you seemed upset w...Ah really I wasn't sure why you seemed upset when I said that most women didn't really recognise or care about female art - yeah, belittling was the wrong word. And I'm sure there are loads of people out there (men & women) who do think "huh, why is it all these famous artists, composers & writers are male?" but I still think it a minority, with the majority of those people being middle class intellectuals (as you yourself now are). That doesn't mean it's not a valid question, just that it's not something that a whole lot of working people probably think about - though I'm a white, middle class intellectual myself so I can't really say I have any proof of that.Dot23https://www.blogger.com/profile/14215966624411039208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1197938424258426711.post-33412706655351048292012-02-15T12:07:19.262-08:002012-02-15T12:07:19.262-08:00Um, I didn't feel like you were belittling fem...Um, I didn't feel like you were belittling female art. If you were doing so I must have missed it completely ;) I did however argue that it's not just the intellectual middle class women who were interested in this or aware of this. Coming from a traditionally working class family, working in factory, cleaning and transport industries myself I guess I might have taken the implication a bit personally. I guess it's fair to say I am intellectual now, but I didn't start out that way and I was interested in these issues long before that changed.Martine Votvikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01940701234392212048noreply@blogger.com